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How can you get into trouble if you lie about having asthma to get into the army?


How can you get into trouble if you lie about having asthma to get into the army?

For one thing - you can die.

Every person in basic training has to go through the gas chamber where they are exposed (and required to breathe) tear gas.

Tear gas can kill somebody with asthma.

you will be tossed out with a dishonorable discharge

Depending on when the lie is discovered will form the punishment. If the lie is discovered early on..say at basic or tech school..the person will most likely be discharged. It could be a dishonorable as they knowingly gave false information, but most of the time is is a general dischage (it will never be an honorable). If the person received any enlistment bonuses they will however have to pay them back, even if they have already spent them. If the lie doesn;'t come out until later in the enlistment, there is a chance of facing formal charges and a courts martial. At this point, there will again be a discharge, most likely a dishonorable (which can have some affects on things like security checks and clearances, may disqualify you from working for certain companies or in certain jobs and you would loose any benefits such as transitional pay, your entire GI Bill and any possiblity of VA benefits). Again, you would have to repay any bonuses recieved and the military can decide to make you repay the cost of training and educating you for your career field. If the person has a family living with them on military housing, the housing will be immediately forfit upon being found guilty and the exspense of relocating will fall to the military member and his family. Asthma, even if you only use an inhaler occassionally, is often affected by stress and enviromental issues..something there will be plenty of in the service. It can be tricky to control and go from a minor attack to a life threatening situation very quickly. If you fellow soldiers don't know about it and it is not in your health record, the likely hood of being helped appropriately if a serious attack occurs, especially during a deployment, drops dramatically. This is one of the reasons asthma is a disqualifier for enlistment. If you have lied, I would come clean on your own..it may help soften whatever follows.

I's called fraudulent enlistment. When you enlist, you swear that EVERYTHING you are telling the service is true and correct.

When they find out you have asthma, they will toss you out without so much as a single benefit and they could actually prosecute you for the fraudulent enlistment.

In the British Army you get discharged but I don't think there would be any punishment - just unemployment for a while.

Maybe you can get away with it but if u have an asthma attack!!!! i wouldn't and depending on your job too....

ohh lesseee: committing Fraud will land you a discharge with a loss of ALL benefits, and RE 4 code( which looks bad to civilian employers) and that's just the paperwork.

when you have an asthma attack in the middle of a firefight, and your battle buddy gets killed because you were too busy wheezing to cover his six, how will you feel then?

you wont,you just wont be able to claim desabbility when u get out!and if u have any type of resperatory sicknes or injury while being in the army...all they r gonna say its related to your asthma....thats if they find out u lied!

Not many of these people that answer these questions has been in the military. What happens in boot camp? This is the first place people are weeded out that the military doesn't want. There aren't any penalties, they just give you and administrative discharge for the convenience of the government. If the physical is any good up front, you make not even get your camis on.

Picture this you are deployed. Somehow you passed boot camp without them knowing you had asthma.

On the battlefield you lose your inhaler. So now because of you someoone has to go out of there way and posibly risk their life to save you, when there are other issues to take care of.

Tell the truth up front, nothing wrong about getting a desk job in the defence force.

how about fraudulent enlistment and falsifying a government document.

Allow me to offer this one tid bit;
As I served in the USAF, I remember swearing an oath that had phrases in it like, I ENTER INTO THIS OFFICE WITH OUT PURSUATION OR MENTAL RESERVATION or PURPOSE OF EVASION,, does that ring a bell?

I find that if we have to lie to obtain something, often times we pay such a heavy price for it in the end, that we soon regret having ever lied in the first place and wish we weren't where ever that lie has taken us.......

not to mention Lying about something like that, while you may be motivated by Patriotism or even the lure of money,, I say tactically its suicide to you and murder for any fellow troop how may need you to be at your best, not to mention Desert sand is MURDER on lungs! no pun intended .......

hmmm simply put you are falsifying a government document it is a false enlistment so basically it is punisable by anything from a discharge to an article 15 and you will be kicked out but whos to say that you didnt develop it while being in the army, also heres a little nugget if knowledge for you.. the new army regulation says you are only disqualified if you were diagnosed with asthma after you 13th birthday. so maybe that can help you out a bit

WHY WOULD ANYONE LIE ABOUT HAVING ASTHMA TO GET INTO THE ARMY?? SURELY IT WOULDN'T HELP????

Why would having asthma be a plus into getting into the army? Make a better meat shield or something?

If it is a volunteer army. How could you get in trouble? They may be able to use you in office work or somewhere. So long as your asthma wasn't real bad.

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