Linda : you're in your own little world, aren't you? :-) It's definitely got to be quackwatch.com
That site is the most popular one, it's taught it medical schools, and a couple people were hired to spam YA with quackwatch up until they got banned a month ago.
I really like quackwatch because the guy who runs it lies so blatantly, does many unethical things (ie. slandering other practitioners and then suing anyone who questions what he says) and uses so many logical fallacies to contradict himself. Given his mainstream acceptance he just serves as a figurehead of proof that the medical system isn't that great.
When I looked the quackwatch guy up, I found out he had a pretty corrupt history and had been funded into place by the medical industry, while at the same time his books were required texts in medical schools (despite the texts having clear lies).
At the same time, some of the stuff he said bothered me, and I took the time to write responses to some of the things he published detailing why they were lies (for topics I knew in depth).
Quackwatch opened my eyes about the modern medical system, and through interacting with it's zealous supporter's I made a lot of interesting friends.
So I would have to say Quackwatch is definitely my favorite debunker website. I bet you'd chose the same thing, so give my best answer :P John Hopkins is one of the most famous hospitals.
They and many other hospitals are using complimentary and alternative medicines CAM in their hospitals so that should tell you something right there.
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/cam/about...
The Richard and Hinda Rosenthal Center for Complementary & Alternative Medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center was ...
www.nyp.org/services/complementary.htm...
http://www.webmd.com/balance/news/200607...
1 in 4 Hospitals Now Offer Complementary and Alternative Medicine Therapies
July 20, 2006 -- More than one in four U.S. hospitals now offer alternative and complementary therapies, such as acupuncture, homeopathy, and massage therapy.
A new survey of nearly 1,400 U.S. hospitals shows more mainstream medical institutions are providing complementary and alternative therapies to meet growing demand.
Alternative Medicine Going Mainstream
The survey, conducted and published by the American Hospital Association every two years, shows the percentage of hospitals offering one or more CAM services increased from 8% in 1998 to 27% in 2005.
Contrary to popular belief, researchers found that complimentary and alternative medicine offerings were most common in the Midwest (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin) and less common on the West Coast. The least common areas to offer CAM services were in the South (Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Tennessee).
The top six complementary and alternative medicine services offered on an outpatient basis among hospitals offering CAM were massage therapy (71%); tai chi, yoga, or chi gong (47%); relaxation training (43%), acupuncture (39%); guided imagery (32%), and therapeutic touch (30%).
Top inpatient services were massage therapy (37%), music/art therapy (26%), therapeutic touch (25%), guided imagery (22%), relaxation training (20%), and acupuncture (11%).
****Edit**** NO you are in your own world! I can give you all kinds of PROOF. All that you can give is opinions. I bet you would even argue with the Native Americans that have used these types of healing for the past many centuries!
I can give you reports from New England Journal of medicine,
and many hospitals, universities and many other
places that do legitimate studies and are recognized world wide but your narrow mind wouldn't digest it because you regergatate anything you do not accept.
Ad G gave you plenty of good info and hasn't even scratched the surface, but why should he bother with more when you won't open your eyes to it.
Yes there are quacks out there and yes there are rip offs but look at what medicine has done. How many people die from side effects.
You are buying into lies not me. I have seen it tried and proven. I feel sorry for you when you have to rely on a bunch of medicines to stabilize other medicines.
I am over 50 years old and haven't had to have any medicine in over 30 years. I am not over weight and have N0 health problems. If you want to call that living in my own little world it beats yours any day!!!
and I HAVE put cancer in remission as well as other illnesses.
Look up CoQ10 and some other alternative medicines Europe medical says are a must in Europe and how the USA refuses to acknowledge it for their own profit.
We were meant to live healthy lives with natural means
man made chemicals are not anabolic living. You are free to put the man made chemicals into your system why bash us for wanting more to life and chose an alternative that was meant to be the right approach.
God knew what he was putting into plants when he made them. Man came along and put chemicals into them and called them drugs. Many natural things like periwinkle are put into cancer medicine and so forth, but what do you KNOW!? Check out http://www.quackwatch.org/ for info on alternative medicine, chiropractic, and all sorts of stuff like that, including in depth info on specific practitioners and miracle cures. Also the QuackCast podcast hosted by Mark Crislip, M.D., an infectious disease doc out of Portland, OR. It's available here: http://www.quackcast.com/QuackCast/Welco... Does someone PAY you guys to bash homeopathy?
It is not a fraud. It has been used successfully all over the world for almost 200 years.
Certainly Quackwatch bashes EVERYTHING except the American Medical establishment - the love-child of the pharmeceutical industry. Do you practice to be so negative and small minded or does it just come naturally?? Alternative medicine fraud ...... homeopathy in particular pfft!! i personally, believe in trying things myself before i can them .......... sorry, can't help you there.
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Work for the pharmaceutical giants do you??
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CHEERS I've looked at sites like psycop and quackwatch. Quackwatch is just a joke and has no credibility whatsoever.
http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
Psycop is better but loads the experiments in a very biased fashion in my opinion.
Neither compare to elsilever, PEDro, Science Direct etc. where they publish research trials even if they do use the flawed reductionist model.
I think there is a real problem with the "scientific" research model which is sold by those who use it as perfect when it is actually very flawed.
This question reminds me of a passage from the bible and the answer I can give is the same as to a similar question posted by Angelhill
'remove the plank from your own eye before looking at the speck in your brothers' First thing, is there such thing as alternative medicine fraud and do you know anyone (in particular homeopathy)? Have you ever heard of anyone dying or having any side effects from homeopathy? Never, you idiot. You are only peed off because you think it may not work. BIG WOW. Its not bloody killing anybody. Just before christmas my flatmates father went into hospital for a minor operation and guess what? He never came out. They had given him some wrong medication and he died. It was a huge shock to the family and the hospital is under investigation. And here you are wanting to go and destroy all the homeopaths for fear that the remedies may not work. Just go and see how many people die each year from allergic reaction to prescription meds or suffer from negative side effects by taking these meds and compare them to what youve read about homeopathy. All products are designed for something. ALL OF THEM. At least if homeopathy doesnt work for you it doing you no damage. Anyway have you been taking the right remedies for youre condition. "screw loose". You need to go to the mental health section, I think they all agree with you there.
Add On; Have you ever tried it? I want details. What were you taking it for? What strength did you use? What dosage and for how long? Was it in pill or liquid form? did you take it with food? Come on lets have some facts here, lets back up your "claim". Let us all know when it didnt work for you. BRING IT ON!
Add on; All the homeopaths Ive known have explained in great detail how it works to all their customers and general inquiries and books fully explain it also. Ive never known of 1 homeopath that cant explain something theyve studied 3 years for! It has not only been effective for myself but for friends children, who know no better and yes, for animals. Try giving Rhus Tox for chickenpox and youll never look back. Oops I made a claim! It is a shame you are so wrong and apparently, small minded about alternative medicines. They must have done something to you in the past for you to be so uptight about them that they cause this festering hatred in you. A friend of mine gives her farm animals homeopathic medicines and has treated them successfully - and they can't have a belief either way in them! Just further to other answers - I think it's a bit rich to call someone narrow minded just because they don't believe in the same things as you. I remain firmly on the fence as far as homeopathy is concerned (don't want to be called small-minded) and will do until I see some actual evidence either way - which it seems I never will because not one homeopathist ever seems to be able to explain themselves or even answer a straightforward question. They just say 'just believe in it' - well I'm quite happy to take that attitude towards God, but not towards medicine.
Anyway, I like this website:
http://www.ncahf.org/pp/homeop.html
Well worth a read. It also deals with the less safe side of homeopathy - it seems there HAVE been reports of adverse effects. If this whole thing about the 'healing crisis' is true, that is very worrying. I suppose if a homeopathic remedy kills someone, then it was the disease that did it, but if a sick person on conventional treatment dies, it has to be the drugs that did it.
Chalice
EDIT: Oh, and just to outline my own experience with homeopathy (however small) - it extends only to treating dogs with parvo and kennel cough that have vaccinated with 'homeopathic vaccines', so I suppose I am falling off the fence a bit. Quackwatch is hilarious...Stephen Barrett the author and person who runs the website lost his medical license for fraud yet tries to tear down alternative medicine for being "quackery" Some excellent points were made in regards to people being "closeminded" yet accepting homeopathy. Granted there is not much research in regards to homeopathy or alternative medicine largely in part because there is no money to do research. NIH just earmarked millions of dollars to be used for research of complementary and alternative medicine, so hopefully within the next 3-5 years we will be seeing a flood of positive research in this regard. If you are completely convinced that our current method of medicine in the United States is not a broken system, you're just kidding yourself. Not only is the model of medical practice unchanged from the turn of the century, but what passes for research today is pathetic. If you know how to effectively read and critique medical research published in medical journals today, then you know about 20% of published articles are considered High quality, 30% are acceptable and the other 50% are considered poor. Speaks volumes for all of the articles that don't get published doesn't it? The fact of the matter is the human body is entirely too complex to say one form of treatment works. Throwing drugs at the problem usually just masks the symptoms (the last thing to appear in disease are symptoms). Sometimes drug therapy is highly effective. Laying on hands is usually just touching the person, but sometimes touch is all the person truly needs. I could go on and on, but it is all about getting the person the right treatment at the right time, regardless of its acceptance in the major medical model.
I realize this posting has nothing to do with the question, but hopefully a few people will read it and realize that alternative medicine is effective when "alternative" treatments are utilized at the correct time. Here's my favorite site for debunking.
http://quackpotwatch.org/
Now as for Homeopathy:
Whenever critics may say That HOMEOPATHY does not have any good research we can confidently inform them that they are not familiar with The SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE. The following summarizes a number of good double-blind Homeopathy studies including both LABORATORY STUDIES as well as CLINICAL RESEARCH. HOMEOPATHY also has a most IMPRESSIVE ACCUMULATION OF STATISTICS that has been acquired over The last 200 years. In a time and age when medicines have a rapid turnover due to harmful side effects or ineffectiveness, Homeopathy has stood the TEST OF TIME. As basic truths will always exist, so have the remedies of Homeopathy. It should be known that In 1975 the U.S. CONGRESS OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT estimated That only 10-20% of all CONVENTIONAL MEDICAL PRACTICES have been shown to be EFFICACIOUS BY CONTROLLED TRAIL.
Also at the turn of The century. a book was published called "The LOGIC OF FIGURES or COMPARATIVE RESULTS OF HOMEOPATHICAND OTHER TREATMENTS. This book provides dozens of charts comparing dis-ease and death rates in Homeopathic and Allopathic Hospitals. This also included the epidemic diseases of scarlet fever, yellow fever, typhoid. etc. The HOMEOPATHIC HOSPITALS usually had 50 TO 80% LESS DEATHS PER 100 PEOPLE, depending on the disease compared.
Another early double blind Homeopathy study was sponsored by the BRITISH GOVERNMENT DURING WORLD WAR II, The experiment demonstrated that those given Homeopathic Remedies experienced SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN BURNS FROM MUSTARD GAS in comparison to those given a Placebo. A 1982 review provided further substantiation of the statistical significance of the Homeopathy research.
LABORATORY EVIDENCE 锟?The number one criticism of the scientific community has been the "infinitesimal" nature or the dilution principle of Homeopathy. Homeopaths do agree that once a remedy is diluted beyond 24x or 12C potencies they are diluted beyond Avagadro's Number (6.23 x 10-23) which theoretically indicates that no molecules are present in the original substance. However, both LABORATORY AND CLINICAL RESULTS over The last 190 years have demonstrated definite effectiveness with Homeopathic remedies beyond this dilution.
A recent NUCLEAR MAGNETIC RESONANCE (NMR) study showed that all twenty-three different Homeopathic Remedies and Potencies tested had DISTINCTIVE READINGS OF SUBMOLECULAR ACTIVITY, while The Placebos did not. This demonstrates That homeopathy's function is not so much chemical but energetic. As Chiropractors, you will observe dramatic clearing of sensory nerve Interference and pathological reflex activity causing chronic recurring subluxation activity and dis-ease.
ANTIVIRAL
A recent double-blinded study has shown THE ANTIVIRAL EFFECT OF HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES EIGHT OF THE TEN remedies tested INHIBITED VIRUSES in chicken embryos from 50 to 100 PERCENT depending on The potencies used.
HEAVY METALS
The respected journal. HUMAN TOXICOLOGY. published a study showing that Homeopathic doses of arsenic eliminated crude doses of trapped arsenic that had been previously fed to rats.
LOWERED SERUM CHOLESTEROL
Four German Scientists at a Veterinary College showed That Homeopathic Chelidonium had LOWERED SERUM CHOLESTEROL when given twice a day to rabbits on a cholesterol rich diet.
REDUCED LABOR PROBLEMS
British Veterinarian, Christopher Day, had conducted several pilot studies demonstrating how Homeopathic Remedies had REDUCED LABOR PROBLEMS in cattle. STILL BIRTHS in pigs, and MASTITIS in catlle.
ANTI-CANCER
The Cancer Research Center in India found that of the 77 mice That received a transplant in FIBROSARCOMA, 52 PERCENT SURVIVED more than one year with Homeopathic Remedies. The 77 mice That were untreated died within 10-15 days.
PAIN CONTROL
Scientists at a BRITISH SCHOOL of PHARMACY found that rodents given Hypericum were able to INHIBIT PAIN RESPONSES. Rodents were able to remain on a hot plate longer than the control group. When given NaLoxone. which inhibits pain killing endorphins, the protective effects of Hypericum was reduced, showing that Homeopathic Hypericum activates endorphins when needed. Please note that these rodents were free to walk off the hot plate whenever discomfort was noticed.
ALLERGIES
Homeopathic Apis and Histamine have a significant effect on reducing the release of certain allergy-causing chemicals from Basophils, which demonstrates one reason for Homeopathy锟絪 positive effects on allergies.
IMPROVED IMMUNE FUNCTION
A respected pharmacology journal showed that Homeopathic Silica had a significant effect on STIMULATING MACROPHAGES in mice, which destroy foreign particles, bacteria, and old cells.
RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS
CLINICAL EVIDENCE: The British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology published a double-blind Homeopathy experiment on patients with RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS. An IMPRESSIVE 82 PERCENT OF THOSE GIVEN A HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINE EXPERIENCED SOME RELIEF OF SYMPTOMS, while only 21 percent of Those given a placebo experienced any similar degree of improvement.
DENTAL NEURALGIA
Another double-blind Homeopathy trial was conducted on patients with DENTAL NEURALGIC PAIN FOLLOWING tooth extraction. An impressive 76 PERCENT of those given the Homeopathic medicine Arnica and Hypericum EXPERIENCED RELIEF OF PAIN.
VERTIGO & NAUSEA
The respected GERMAN PHARMACOLOGICAL JOURNAL demonstrated a statistically significant improvement in REDUCING VERTIGO AND NAUSEA with a Homeopathic combination formula.
REDUCED LABOR TIME & COMPLICATIONS
French researchers recently completed a double-blind trial using a Homeopathic Formula to TREAT PREGNANT WOMEN. The study found this Homeopathic Formula to REDUCE LABOR TIME and DECREASE ABNORMAL LABOR. The average labor time of the women given the Homeopathic Formula was 5.1 HOURS, while the Placebo Group was 8.5 HOURS. ONLY 11.3 PERCENT OF THE WOMEN GIVEN THE HOMEOPATHIC FORMULA had any ABNORMAL LABOR, while 40 PERCENT of the Placebo Group had an ABNORMAL LABOR.
http://www.lyghtforce.com/King_bio/resea...
Homeopathy has existed for about 200 years, yet reports in the media have suggested that homeopathy is the medicine of the future. Today, homeopathy is found in almost every country. In Europe, 40% of French physicians use homeopathy; 40% of Dutch, 37% of British, and 20% of German physicians use homeopathy. In the United States, hundreds of thousands of people take homeopathic remedies each year. Indeed, homeopathy seems to be becoming more popular.
There are two points of view about homeopathy that are in conflict. One viewpoint says that homeopathy should not attempt to meet the rigorous requirements of scientific medicine. It is sufficient that there have been millions of satisfied patients during the last 200 years. Science is not relevant anyway because it rejects the concept of the energy of the "vital force" which is essential to homeopathy. This vital force is identical to the concept of vitalism -- a primitive concept used to explain health and disease. And, besides, scientific medicine is unfairly prejudiced and biased against homeopathy. Dana Ullman, a leading spokesman for American homeopathy, says that personal experience is much more convincing than any experiments. The emphasis on experience shows that most people simply do not understand that good science, based upon experiments, is essential to the development of knowledge.
The second viewpoint is that scientific research is necessary if homeopathy is to be accepted by medicine and society. In the past 15 years many experimental studies have been done to examine homeopathic remedies.
In December 1994 a study examined homeopathic treatment of allergic asthma in Scotland. The 13 patients who received the homeopathic remedy reported feeling better and breathing easier than the 15 patients who received the placebo. Then the researchers combined these data with several earlier experiments. They concluded that, in general, homeopathy is not a placebo and that homeopathy is reproducible.
Homeopathy Proves Effective In Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study
Contrary to the overwhelming belief of the mainstream medical establishment, results from a recent series of trials suggest that homeopathy is more effective than an inactive pill (placebo) in treating certain ills.
Researchers studied 51 patients with perennial hay fever. Twenty-four of the study subjects received daily homeopathy and 27 received a daily placebo treatment during the 4-week study period.
The study was performed to the highest standards of scientific research, being double-blinded, randomized, and placebo-controlled.
All of the subjects kept a diary in which they recorded twice daily their nasal air flow measurements and symptoms such as sneezing, runny nose, and eye and chest symptoms.
Patients who received homeopathy had a 28% improvement in their nasal air flow whereas those in the placebo group had only a 3% improvement.
In comments to Reuters Health, study author Dr. David Reilly of the Glasgow Homoeopathic Hospital states "There are two ways of interpreting the fact that four trials in a row have produced positive results," Either homeopathy works, in which case "we need to explore the clinical potential and the scientific challenges, (or) homeopathy does not work (and) the clinical trial is proving an unreliable tool capable of worrying false positive results."
In an accompanying editorial, Tim Lancaster of the Oxford Institute of Health Sciences and Andrew Vickers of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City, acknowledge that the methods employed by Dr. Reilly and his colleagues "were rigorous and it is unlikely that their results arose from methodological bias."
They also admit that if this study can be confirmed by a larger trial it could really change the thinking of mainstream medicine towards homeopathy.
British Medical Journal August 19, 2000;321:471-476.
I also added some more sites that could help you on your journey towards the light. I hope that you enjoy reading these as much as I did. Great answers from knowledgeable posters on the benefits of alternative medicine.
My favorite debunking website is the FDA website which daily publishes recalls of damaging chemicals....latest is heparin, used in 100% of US hospitals.....list of side effects too long to publish here DO YOU MEAN WEBSITES THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE DRUG COMPANIES. I suggest you travel around the world and talk to doctors that are curing people of terminal diseases before you bash alternative medicine a.k.a real medicine. Talk to doctors that are not brainwashed by the AMA, which is funded by the drug companies. Go around the world and research how the following has a dramatic healing effect on the body, live organic foods, the healing sun, live whole food supplements, oxygen therapy, dmso therapy, mind healing, quantum consciousness healing, on and on. This website has a good article about homeopathy and every life nonsense as well:
http://www.dailycommonsense.com/?p=29
worth a look! |
