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Moral Conundrum: Water into wine does it support substance abuse?


Just wondering if Jesus would support turning sand into Cocaine if Mary wanted to keep the party going in a modern setting?

You know you've been partying too long if you need to make a beer run at a wedding...

Oh, Blessed, leave it to you to give me something to laugh about these days!!

My answer: They didn't have cocaine then. Let's be realistic, OK?

However, just east, near Babylon (that awful sin city!) poppies were growing all over the place. So I think it more likely that opium would have been used not only as as nice aperitif, but also a pleasurable after dinner drink if mixed with water, a small amount of olive oil, and date or other fruit juices. Don't you agree?

Also, it would not be considered substance abuse because the issue of "what is too much" was not yet a problem.

Besides, they had to worry more about the Roman occupation and getting rid of Canaanite pagans, those naughty people!

Jews of that time drank wine, fermented from grapes. Much the same way we drink wine today.

The limits that Christianity places on the consumption of wine is to "not be drunk". But in moderation "wine maketh merry the heart".

The cocaine example suggests that drinking wine in moderation and cocaine should be considered equivalent - I suggest that it is not.

e.g. Cocaine is universally addictive whereas wine is addictive only to a small segment of the population.

Christ urges us towards perfection "be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect". This is extremely difficult with chemical dependencies - i.e. no drugs, just wine.

oinos {oy'-nos}

I cannot give an authoritative scientific answer to this question, but I can offer a point of view for you to consider based upon the scriptures. When Jesus made the wine at the wedding feast of Cana, it was almost instantaneous, yet that wine had the properties normally requiring months or years of aging. When the governor of the feast tasted it (not knowing its source or history), he said it was "good wine" (John 2:1-10; cf. Luke 5:39). This control over time applies to all of Jesus' creation-type miracles, as in John 6:5-13, Mark 8:1-9)

"By turning water into wine, he manifest during the early days of his ministry that he had power over temporal, physical matters." Interestingly, the first plague the Lord brought against Egypt to demonstrate his saving power to the Israelite slaves was turning the Nile water to blood (Exodus 7:19-25). This same Jehovah, at the time of Moses, sent manna from heaven for forty years because not to do so would mean the children of Israel would die in the wilderness. (See Exodus 16:31-35.)

Now wouldn't that be lovely. All that snow!

As for water into wine, I believe in those days substance abuse was a thing of the future. There really wasn't a heck of a lot to do in those days and it really hadn't been that long since Dionysus held sway, which means you were being holier than thou if you were drunk as a sow. Now there's a religion I wouldn't mind joining.

Hee hee.

But to be fair to those ancients, in those days many people drank beer and wine in preference to the water, which was dangerously contaminated.

Small amounts of alcohol sterilised the stuff.

ummmmm......wow...interesting thought. I wish I could turn water into gin. Well, actually I can. It takes awhile though. Lots of potatoes, sugar and water. Grandpa taught me how. He said it's legal as long as I don't sell it.

Is this just to get an uprise, or are you actually curious?

Because, wine was a normal drink in Jesus's time.
Cocaine, however, is against the law.

So, no, that would not be equal.

No. Wine was a common drink of the day. It was safer than water to drink wine.

It was a different kind of wine back then - lol.

your mom supports substance abuse

This from someone who is blessed for turning milk into curds and whey?

Now that's funny. High five.

no a small amt is fine and even good for us.. wine that is

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